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avatar Richard
Administrator
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A question of fluoride?

Do you want fluoride to continue being added to Waipukurau's water supply? Click on these links to read the 'for' and 'against' arguments about fluoride

For and Against

Fluoride Action Network NZ

Hawke's Bay District Health Board – telephone 06 8788 109

Then have your say about whether or not to keep adding fluoride to Waipukurau's water supply. You can reply to this post (or any other in this topic) by clicking on the 'Reply' button below or follow this link to make a submission to Council.

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avatar Shelley
14 posts

Re: A question of fluoride?

The information presented by the Ministry of Health - HB District Health Board and the Fluoride Action Network NZ seems very good. I encourage you to read all the information you can and get in touch with the HBDHB and the FANNZ if you have any questions.

avatar Richard
Administrator
10 posts

Frequently asked questions

There is a list of Frequently Asked Questions regarding the consultation process on this topic. They can be read here

avatar Richard
Administrator
10 posts

Presentation at Meeting 10 Sept.

Local dentist, John Jukes, will present information 'against' fluoridation at a meeting at the Waipukurau Memorial Hall on Thursday 10 September at 5.30pm. HB DHB will present information 'for' fluoridation. There will also be a Q & A session for the public.

avatar Grai
Community Member
6 posts

Re: A question of fluoride?

I was unaware that Fluoride had been added to Waipukurau's water supply in 1979 and if I had known I would not have moved here.
I wonder if other people feel as strongly as I do? I am a family man with 5 children and their wellbeing is at the top of the list as far as I am concerned. I am highly offended that any government or authority should mass medicate my water supply without consultation. Thank goodness that a financial consideration by the current CHB Council has brought this issue out into the open after so many years. I am only grateful that my family has not been exposed to this 'Mass Medication' for long as we have only been in town for a short while. My concern is for all the other beautiful little families who have had 'no say' about this destiny imposed by government and carried out by council.
I am not that interested in the claims made of it 'being good for us'. PLEASE let us make that choice for our own families and cut the NANNY STATE SYNDROME NOW.
I do know how huge and presumably effective the natural remedies are which are put out by Weleda and places like them. Homeopathy uses parts per million of diluted natural plant extracts. (lots of us have used Arnica for example on injury) they have great effect on our bodies and the way they function. Who knows what effect minute parts of Fluoride based substances may have on our bodies and whether the effect would be positive. There are a lot of natural occurring substances that I would not want to eat. Fluoride derivatives would definitely be one of them. I for one don't want my family to be guinea pigs and I say NO TO FLUORIDATION OF OUR DRINKING WATER.
We can buy beer with no added impurities why can't we have the drinking water for our children the same way. Cheers, Grai

avatar nyscof
Community Member
1 posts

Re: A question of fluoride?

Fluoride is Ineffective and Harmful, studies show

Opposition: Scientific, Respectable & Growing

New York - Sept 2009 -- Over 2,600 professionals urge the US Congress to stop water fluoridation until Congressional hearings are conducted, citing scientific evidence that fluoridation, long promoted to fight tooth decay, is ineffective and has serious health risks. See statement:http://www.fluorideaction.org/statement.august.2007.html.

Al so, eleven U.S. Environmental Protection Agency employee unions representing over 7000 environmental and public health professionals called for a moratorium on drinking water fluoridation programs across the country, and have asked EPA management to recognize fluoride as posing a serious risk of causing cancer in people. (1a)

Last election day, 53 US cities rejected fluoridation joining a growing list of communities saying "No," to fluoridation. (1) July 21, 2009, Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada legislators rejected the hard push for fluoridation. (1b)

Since the professionals' statement was first issued (Aug 2007), the following occurred:

-- The Canadian Association of Physicians for the Environment,Canada’s leading voice on environmental health issues, released a statement opposing fluoridation. (2)

-- May 2009, Great Lakes United (GLU) supports the end of water fluoridation. GLU is made up organizations representing environmentalists, conservationists, hunters and anglers, labor unions, community groups, and citizens of the United States, Canada, and First Nations and Tribes. (13)

-- The National Kidney Foundation dropped its fluoridation support replacing it with this caution: “Individuals with CKD [Chronic Kidney Disease] should be notified of the potential risk of fluoride exposure.” (3)

-- Researchers reporting in the Oct 6 2007 British Medical Journal indicate that fluoridation never was proven safe or effective and may be unethical. (4)

-- “A qualitative review of ...studies found a consistent and strong association between the exposure to fluoride and low IQ,” concluded Tang el al., in "Fluoride and Children’s Inte lligence: A Meta-analysis” inBiological Trace Element Research (5)

-- Scientific American editors wrote in January 2008, "Some recent studies suggest that over-consumption of fluoride can raise the risks of disorders affecting teeth, bones, the brain and the thyroid gland"

-- Dr. A. K. Susheela, a leading fluoride expert, explains in a video why US physicians overlook fluoride as a possible cause of diseases commonly caused by fluoride. http://tinyurl.com/Susheela

-- A study in the Fall 2008 Journal of Public Health Dentistry reveals that cavity-free teeth have little to do with fluoride intake.Researchers report, "The benefits of fluoride are mostly topical…while fluorosis is clearly more dependent on fluoride intake."

-- Research published in Biological Trace Element Research (April 2009). indicates that blood fluoride levels were significantly higher in patients with osteosarcoma than in control groups. (13) Osteosarcoma, a rare bone cancer, occurs mostly in children and young adults

A Tennessee State legislator who is also an MD is urging all Tennessee Water Districts to stop fluoridation, reported a Tennessee newspaper on 11/29/08. At least 30 Tennessee water districts have already complied with his request.(6)

On 1/5/09, the Burlington Board of Health recommended that Burlington cease fluoridation because fluoridation can harm some people. (7)

On 1/6/09, a Canadian town, Drayton, stopped fluoridation, not to save money, but because=2 0it was in the best interests of residents, said the Mayor. (8)

On 2/10/2009 Skagit County, WA officials reversed their 2007 fluoridation decision. (9)

On 3/3/2009, Plainfield, Vermont bans fluoridation. (10)

The Arkansas Oral Health Director is accused of giving eight "false or misleading statements" on fluoridation to an Arkansas legislative Committee. (12)

Signers to the FAN statement include:

-- Dr. Arvid Carlsson,winner of the 2000 Nobel Prize for Medicine

-- Vyvyan Howard, MD, PhD, past-President, International Society of Doctors for the Environment

-- Ken Cook and Richard Wiles, Environmental Working Group

-- Lois Gibbs, Center for Health, Environment, and Justice

-- Joseph Mercola, Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine, who runs the #1 most visited natural health website

-- Theo Colborn, PhD, co-author, “Our Stolen Future”

-- Sam Epstein, MD, Chairman, Cancer Prevention Coalition

-- The current and six past Presidents of the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology

-- Board of Directors (2007), American Academy of Environmental Medicine

-- FIVE Goldman Prize winners - given for excellence in protecting the environment

-- Three members of the prestigious 2006 National Research Council (NRC) panel that reported on fluoride’s toxicology

-- Three officers in the Union representing professionals at EPA headquarters

-- Hundreds of medical, dental, academic, scientific and environmental professionals, worldwide.

Nobel Prize winner, Dr. Arvid Carlsson, says, “Fluoridation is against all principles of modern pharmacology. It's really obsolete.”

Fluoride jeopardizes health - even at low levels deliberately added to public water supplies,=2 0according to data presented in a 2006 National Academy of Sciences' (NAS) National Research Council (NRC) report. Fluoride poses risks to the thyroid gland, diabetics, kidney patients, high water drinkers and others and can severely damage children's teeth. (11) At least three panel members advise avoiding fluoridated water.

“The NRC fluoride report dramatically changed scientific understanding of fluoride's health risks," says Paul Connett, PhD, Executive Director, Fluoride Action Network. "Government officials who continue to promote fluoridation must testify under oath as to why they are ignoring the powerful evidence of harm in the NRC report,” he added.

The Professionals’ Statement also references:

-- The new American Dental Association policy recommending infant formula NOT be prepared with fluoridated water.

-- The CDC’s concession that the predominant benefit of fluoride is topical not systemic.

-- CDC data showing that dental fluorosis, caused by fluoride over-exposure, now impacts one third of American children.

-- Major research indicating little difference in decay rates between fluoridated and non-fluoridated communities.

-- A Harvard study indicating a possible link between fluoridation and bone cancer.

The Environmental Working Group (EWG), a DC watchdog, revealed that a Harvard professor concealed the fluoridation/bone cancer connection for three years. EWG President Ken Cook states, “It is time for the US to recognize that fluoridation has serious risks that far outweigh any minor benefits, and unlike many other environmental issues, it's as easy to end as turning off a valve at the water plant.”

Adverse health effects of fluoride: http://www.FluorideAction.Net/health

References:

(1a) Press Release August 19, 2005, “EPA Unions Call for Nationwide Moratorium on Fluoridation, Congressional Hearing on Adverse Effects, Youth Cancer Cover Up,” Contact: Dr. William Hirzy, Vice-President NTEU Chapter 280
http://www2.fluoridealert.org/Alert/United-States/National/EPA-unions-call-for-moratorium-on-fluoride-in-drinking-water
(1b) http://www.ckpr.com/news.aspx?cid=61442
(1) http://www.fluoridealert.org/communities.htm
(2) http://www.fluoridealert.org/cape.html
(3) National Kidney Foundation, “Fluoride Intake in Chronic Kidney Disease,” April 15, 2008
http://www.kidney.org/atoz/pdf/Fluoride_Intake_in_CKD.pdf
(4) "Adding fluoride to water supplies," British Medical Journal, KK Cheng, Iain Chalmers, Trevor A. Sheldon, October 6, 2007
(5) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18695947?ordinalpos=2&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

(6) http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewiStockNews/articleid/2840202

(7) http://www.swabvt.org/node/300

(8) http://www.draytonvalleywesternreview.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1373584

(9) http://www.goskagit.com/home/article/commissioners_vote_to_halt_fluoride_program/

(10) http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20090303/NEWS0301/90303100/1009/NEWS01

(11) National Research Council (2003-2006): Fluoride in Drinking Water: A Scientific Review of EPA's Standards
http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/epa/nrc/

(12) "State oral health director challenged over comments about fluoridation,"
March 10, 2009,by Kathryn Lucariello, Carroll County News
http://www.carrollconews.com/story/1509198.html

(13) Biological Trace Element Research, “Serum Fluoride and Sialic Acid Levels in Osteosarcoma,” by Sandhu R, Lal H, Kundu ZS, Kharb S, Apr 24, 2009 [Epub ahead of print]

(14) http://www.glu.org/sites/default/files/Resolution-regarding-artificial-water-fluoridation.pdf

SOURCE: Fluoride Action Network http://www.FluorideAction.Net

avatar Shelley
14 posts

Re: A question of fluoride?

Thank you for your comments, Grai. Your thoughts about encouraging the public to have a 'say' are exactly why Council is asking the citizens of Waipukurau the question. Council recognises that opening up dialogue and consulting with the public in the form of submissions, surveys, and forums (as well as simply having an open door policy) can only benefit our people and the district.

avatar Shelley
14 posts

Re: A question of fluoride?

Thank you Nyscof for your comments and information. CHB District Council does not express a view on fluoridation, we are simply facilitating a consultation process for the citizens of Waipukurau to have access to information 'for' and 'against' fluoride in water supplies and to have their say about same.

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